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    Thanks. There is likely an API fix for it. The downside is that I'm going to be unable to say what works haha. Either lemmy.ml is bugged out not letting people login again, or that delete went through. Just sorting out .world now.

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  • I've tried to delete my lemmy.world account, but can still log into my fully functional account. I've tried multiple times and waiting it out for 3 or 4 days now. All account deletion seems to do is log you out. edit: seems a similar issue is known, and my lemmy.ml account wont delete in a similar way. https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy-ui/issues/1637

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    You would have to make a new account. Not sure how i feel about not having account migration. It's got its good and bad points. Sad to make a second account though.

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    Their bots are posting anti-threaxit content as we speak.

    I keep forgetting that most people don't get the censored info about how evil facebook/meta is. Its a huge list of items. I'm considering compiling it.

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    I made the mistake of not just updating my post when I reply to people. My responses are scattered through the post. I encourage you to ctrl-f.

    I was getting sidetracked, but thanks to your encouragement I updated the main post.

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    I really wanted to reply to you but deleted half way in, sorry burning out

    I just want basic respect and for you to be literate. Go view lunars answer to see my central point. I've answered everything else you have said in other posts here. I'm not going to feed trolls any more.

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    Your reply is a perfect example of how threads actions are causing toxicity in lemmy.world.

    edit: Id just like to point out that at no point does he respond about meta being evil and unworthy to associate with, which is the important part he should be talking about.

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  • Why people keep defending Meta/Threads?
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    The horse is known to bolt, it also killed a child last week, also the neighbor said he'd shoot me if i let it out again and he means it. But don't worry, the horse that escaped a dozen times should be given another chance.

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  • Second largest Lemmy instance preemptively un-friends Facebook
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    Have a read in that link and you can see some conversation about it. Meta is a known evil, waiting for more proof is unneeded when you can just look into their history. There are links in that link. It's just a cover to slide +1 step towards allowing meta to control what we talk about.

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    This was part of my plan all along! To raise awareness about what is happening so that others can do the right thing, or at least start thinking about it in a new way. I didn't see many others talking about the narrative hijack stuff, so i took a bullet and gave it a go.

    I think we all have different skills in this and need to find our easiest ways to personally do something. It's a part of being in a community after all :). They want to control what we think about and talk about, so we can start by talking about what we aren't meant to say, and my downvotes paint a clear picture lol. I even had a post mentioning facebook helping enable genocide removed by a mod.

    We should make a big deal about the evils of Meta, especially how they control views to help promote genocide and how they are destroying our loved ones minds. @Lunar@lemmy.world Said it perfectly. We need to spread that kind of sentiment until we have a better idea of what to do next. We can force them to not federate.

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    Thank you so much for being the first to properly understand the threat I was trying to express. You said it so much better than I could at the time.

    I think the reason we are debating is because there are already bots and bad actors working hard to change and forge opinion. I think this style of fediverse just died, but we are close to easily making a new better one.

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  • Why people keep defending Meta/Threads?
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    Yeah, its sad. one more place dead, but most wont know until they have lived through it a few times. I was hoping we would find our feet here before we get too many people watering it down. Guess that's a very dead dream. There is some hope though. The people that made reddit what it was to start with were people like us. When we go we create new great places, and where the average person goes(if they can do more than just read and learn our ways) they will destroy it. Reddit became about cats and trump as soon as the masses showed up. Now we get to see that again here.

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    I'm just replacing the ok part of my deleted comment, but nothing more than the part about facebook supporting genocide. Facebook/meta encourages genocide by allowing posts to stay active and other things. That's a big part of why anti meta guys are so serious.

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    Yeah, I think the lack of announcement was why i made this post ultimately. I felt betrayed if they kept their views censored. I'm here because everywhere with close to uncensored(in regards to the evils in the world) speech gets compromised and I let me hopes get the better of me. I just wanna hear new ideas and talk with interesting people. I'd rather not have more standard corporate approved memes and repost bots etc. I don't want to be in a meta tainted area.

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    We don't have to wait and see? Meta has a proven history.

    His write up doesn't cover the issue my post is about, but it does cover a fair bit. I also worry about fracturing the community but see it differently. If everyone rejected meta or if everyone embraced meta, we would be an unfractured community. Unfortunately we aren't fully one way or the other. The best part though is that we can split into different instances. My biggest issue is that to my knowledge, on lemmy.world there were no announcements stating intent, and to people like me that means pro-corporate and I need to leave. If they just announced I would have just slowly left without much fuss.

    i do realise lemmy isn't effected that badly compared to mastodon, but the basics still stand.

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    I didn't think about this from a community owner pov. It would be pretty rough on them.

    Meta is known to promote bad things. There is already enough evidence and a top level corporation should be seen as representative of all their holdings. Meta facilitates genocide.. i should get some articles but I'm done for a while.

    also, "wait and see" feels like a judge that has alzheimers and can't see the persons criminal record.

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    I really wanted to reply to you but deleted half way in, sorry burning out. most people aren't responding to what I'm actually saying, but just making massive assumptions half the time. For example I'm not talking about the API, EEE or privacy at all in the slightest.

    Us and we can be used strangely by some, you might be reading into it a bit too much, but i also coulda phrased better. we/us as in the refugees of corporate bs from reddit.

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  • I don't think this is EEE, I think this is a chance for meta to dominate the narrative by drowning us out with algorithmically curated censorship, distractions, hatred, outrage etc. I would join threads if I want threads, I would be on Reddit if I want corporate influence. [The mastodon post for the same server admins admitting to allow Meta](https://mastodon.world/@mwadmin/110654590632768079) thanks @BrikoX and @Melco [This is the post regarding an admin of fosstodon being offered a secret meeting under a non disclosure agreement](https://fosstodon.org/@kev/110592625692688836) [Thanks lunar for articulating my central point better than I could.](https://lemmy.world/comment/975886) -------- Most of my primary content was within the comment section scattered so I'll try to put it up here and edit more as i go. I was worried I'd butcher things so I avoided updating my post. Ignore the mess -- EEE - I don't want to talk specifically about this. Many others are, and you can talk with them about it. -- Privacy - My views on privacy is that lemmy is already fully public and facebook merging into it probably wont reduce your lemmy privacy in any meaningful way. Ignoring lemmy, your privacy is already fully breached in ways I'm not going to explain here. -- People keep making blind claims that facebook/meta can't use their algorithms to interact with us, so i will explain. For the record I know most of this effects mastodon directly, and not so much lemmy. Threads will be able to control what gets minimised and maximised based on whatever secret algorithms they use. These end results are known to people that want to know, it's how our parents and grandparents, became increasingly detached from reality. If facebook/meta wants to censor their users, they will, if they want to promote hate against LGBTQs then they will. Those users will then interact with our users, slowly shifting our conversations and the overall culture of lemmy into the same cesspool that is facebook. Secondly, the content of threads will be selected by a relatively massive userbase which will drown out our content if we stay federated. Of course that content will be optimised by their algorithm, thus influencing fediverse content. -- Now onto the principle matter. FACEBOOK IS EVIL, like genocidal evil, a propaganda arm of the empire evil. They have a heavily proven track record. "Wait and see"? There is no need to ignore facebook/metas criminal record. The admins here should have clearly stated their intent but have been deafeningly silent. People are asking for clarification or in my case, acting because of a clear lack of action. Other posts are talking about this and I will assume you have been reading them. -- [pjhenry](https://lemmy.world/u/pjhenry1216@kbin.social) is a troll that ignores what people actually say, he focuses on his intentional misunderstandings and straw-men, just stop feeding the troll guys, he only wants to fight over nothing. He only acts in bad faith.

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