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The Bridgy Fed dev didn't get browbeaten into anything, he thinks the opt-in approach is better (and I agree). And he's also said the backlash was probably deserved.
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Also SmokeSignal events https://smokesignal.events/
I saw a talk by the peole working on FrontPage last week, they use the Bluesky Relay, filter it down to only see the posts they're interested it, and have their own AppView. It doesn't yet have the same kind of intereoperability with Bluesky that Lemmy does with (say) Mastodon; FrontPage posts are only visible to FrontPage. But, there are discussions on how to get beyond that.
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Thanks, glad you appreciate it!
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Yeah. Funny how that works!
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Thanks much for the detailed response ... I didn't realize the purpose of this community. Somebody had suggested I post the draft here, which I did, and now I realize that their suggestion was a snarky trap that I fell for 🤣. Oh well, joke's on them (as well as me), I got good feedback on the draft here.
Agreed that there are structural problems with AP; I wrote about this in And it's about the protocol, too. But even though software improvements can help, the underlying problem's cultural.
I intentionally didn't phrase it in terms of allyship (in fact I'm pretty sure the word "ally" doesn't even appear in the article) ... still, I don't think white folks (me included) can stop being white, nor should we -- we are who we are, and that's okay. I do think we (again including me) can make more of an effort to deal with our default attitudes and behaviors, and try to use our privilege for good.
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Thanks for pointing that out! But, I got enough pushback on the wording of point 2 that I changed it to just "Think before you post"
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Here's the list: 1. Listen more to more Black people – and amplify their voices 2. Post less – and think before you post 3. Call in, call out, and/or report anti-Blackness when you see it 4. Support Black people and Black-led instances and projects 5. Approach it intersectionally [The full article](https://privacy.thenexus.today/start-making-the-fediverse-less-toxic/) goes into detail, and also has links to anti-racism resources and appendices with a list of common mistakes to avoid and blocklist resources for moderators. Thanks to everybody who gave feedback on earlier drafts!
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There's a bit more on Mastodon then Lemmy - https://docs.joinmastodon.org/user/moving/#migration has the details. But not being able to move posts is a big limitation. And even the functionality that's implemented has some unpleasant surprises -- see https://erinkissane.com/notes-from-a-mastodon-migration
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You asked me to help you find the examples and I said no and suggested a technique that might work. It's an answer, it's just one you didn't like. When you told me that you weren't able to apply the technique successfully, I said
Oh well. It sounds like you’ve got some work to do. The revised version of the article has some antiracism resources, so stay tuned.
thenexusofprivacy Now • 20%
Yes, I answered your question, you just didn't like my answer.
If you can’t find them, then (like many people) that’s a sign you’re used to an environment where anti-Blackness is normalized. So, imagine a Black person reading this thread who’s been targeted by racism on the fediverse. What comments would they think are dismissive of Black people?
It doesn't make any assumptions about your ethnicity. If you are in fact a Black person who's been targeted by racism on the fediverse but isn't seeing it in that thread, it's still a useful suggestion to step outside yourself and try to reading it as somebody else would,
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Here's the list: 1. Listen more to more Black people – and amplify their voices 2. Think before you post 3. Call in, call out, and/or report anti-Blackness when you see it 4. Support Black people and Black-led instances and projects 5. Approach it intersectionally [The full article](https://privacy.thenexus.today/start-making-the-fediverse-less-toxic/) goes into detail, and also has links to anti-racism resources and appendices with a list of common mistakes to avoid and blocklist resources for moderators. Thanks to everybody who gave feedback on earlier drafts! (Update, 8/19: I changed the wording on #2 to match changes in the underlying article)
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Yep, very similar dynamics.
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The revised version of 4 things white people can do to start making the fediverse less toxic for Black people (DRAFT!) will have (or maybe link off to) a list of examples on Lemmy -- that's why I started this thread. But, you don't have to wait! There are multiple examples in this thread and the thread I linked to in the OP.
And yes, there are tools. I'll have more links in the revised version, but one good place to start is Ijeoma Oluo's Welcome To The Anti-Racism Movement — Here’s What You’ve Missed
thenexusofprivacy Now • 20%
I answered. And there are also some good examples of anti-Blackness in the comments here.
thenexusofprivacy Now • 0%
There are plenty of examples in this thread and the crossposts, and more discussion in https://lemmy.world/post/18536867
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If you can't find them, then (like many people) that's a sign you're used to an environment where anti-Blackness is normalized. So, imagine a Black person reading this thread who's been targeted by racism on the fediverse. What comments would they think are dismissive of Black people?
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I'm not saying to pour through millions of posts, this one and the one I linked to have plenty of examples.
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I was agreeing with you that moderation can make a big difference in how many people see the racist posts (and defederating from instances that are known sources of racism). Still, even when moderators remove posts, people still see them -- people in this thread talked about posts using "playing the race card", inflammatory memes, and other stuff that moderators removed. So I don't see it as moving the bar from the question of whether people have seen racism. But I certainly agree that racism that moderators don't address is a bigger problem!
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Yeah. It's endemic in society, so there's no reason that specific social networks are magically exempt from it.
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These are all good points (and not having anything like Mastodon's followers-only posts removes another way to hide in obscurity). Moderators certainly got involved in some of the cross-posts of the earlier thread, at least a dozen comments were removed on beehaw and a couple people got banned from the awful.systems thread.
On the other hand, downvoting can also be used as a weapon to try to bury discussions of racism (this thread btw is at -17, the previous one is at -70).
Also somebody here mentions that "There’s currently only 1 user that I’ve noticed that keeps bringing race up." (hiii!!!!). A culture where people don't talk about race means that whiteness is normalized and unexamined. And quite a few of the comments in this thread (saying I'm the racist, analogizing me to a "Karen", calling me a fool) and the previous ones ("is this a joke?", "haha", "Lol, how is race relevant? Obv rage bait shitpost", the one analogizing me to Hitler) are all consistent with an environment where reactions to somebody bringing up race are hostile. Almost nobody is challenging these comments, in fact they've got plenty of upvotes.
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The previous post that I linked to is now down to -70! Discussions about racism often make people very uncomfortable. Thanks for all your responses in the thread that came from this, one of the commenters blocked me so I can't respond directly to them, but I greatly appreciate it!
In [4 things white people can do to start making the fediverse less toxic for Black people (DRAFT!)](https://lemmy.world/post/18261593) and its cross-posts, quite a few people said things like "maybe racism is a problem on Mastodon, but I don't see it on Lemmy." Then again, plenty of comments in the various threads were in fact examples of racism on Lemmy, so one takeaway is that at lot of people don't see racism even when they're looking at it. And helpful commenters pointed out some of the other patterns of racism on Lemmy. ... but that wasn't really the thrust of that discussion. So I wanted to ask more generally, what are some of the examples you've seen of racism on Lemmy? Quotes and links are great, but also feel free just to describe examples or call out more general patterns!
In [4 things white people can do to start making the fediverse less toxic for Black people (DRAFT!)](https://lemmy.world/post/18261593) and its cross-posts, quite a few people said things like "maybe racism is a problem on Mastodon, but I don't see it on Lemmy." Of course, plenty of comments in the various threads were in fact examples of racism on Lemmy, so one takeaway is that at lot of people don't see racism even when they're looking at it. And helpful commenters pointed out some of the other patterns of racism on Lemmy. ... but that wasn't really the thrust of that discussion. So I wanted to ask more generally, what are some of the examples you've seen of racism on Lemmy? Quotes and links are great, but also feel free just to describe examples or call out more general patterns!
In [4 things white people can do to start making the fediverse less toxic for Black people (DRAFT!)](https://lemmy.world/post/18261593) and its cross-posts, quite a few people said things like "maybe racism is a problem on Mastodon, but I don't see it on Lemmy." Then again, plenty of comments in the various threads were in fact examples of racism on Lemmy, so one takeaway is that at lot of people don't see racism even when they're looking at it. And helpful commenters pointed out some of the other patterns of racism on Lemmy. ... but that wasn't really the thrust of that discussion. So I wanted to ask more generally, what are some of the examples you've seen of racism on Lemmy? Quotes and links are great, but also feel free just to describe examples or call out more general patterns!
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Feedback welcome! Here's the TL;DR list 1. Listen more to more Black people 2. Post less – and think before you post 3. Call in, call out, and/or report anti-Blackness when you see it 4. Support Black people and Black-led instances and projects Other suggestions?
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Feedback welcome! Here's the TL;DR list 1. Listen more to more Black people 2. Post less – and think before you post 3. Call in, call out, and/or report anti-Blackness when you see it 4. Support Black people and Black-led instances and projects Other suggestions?
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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/post/15011909 Feedback welcome! Here's the TL;DR list 1. Listen more to more Black people 2. Post less – and think before you post 3. Call in, call out, and/or report anti-Blackness when you see it 4. Support Black people and Black-led instances and projects Other suggestions?
Feedback welcome! Here's the TL;DR list 1. Listen more to more Black people 2. Post less – and think before you post 3. Call in, call out, and/or report anti-Blackness when you see it 4. Support Black people and Black-led instances and projects Other suggestions?
This is a work in progress, so feedback very welcome! And, if please check out [the Mastodon poll about interest in a fork](https://infosec.exchange/@thenexusofprivacy/112294665652523312) Contents: * Intro * There's a lot of low-hanging fruit * Safety is an especially good area to focus on * It's not as easy as it sounds ... * But it's not like it defies the laws of physics! * What about funding? * Make sure there are funded leadership and project roles for Black, Indigenous, Muslim, trans, queer, and disabled people as well as others who have been marginalized in Mastodon's development history * Let a thousand forks bloom! * Clever conclusion! tbd As the tbd in that last bullet implies, the conclusion isn't written yet. Like I said it really is a work in progress!
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If you're a developer working on a fediverse app or service and want to get it right – or just don't want to be the center of the next firestorm – here are a few suggestions.
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If you're a developer working on a fediverse app or service and want to get it right – or just don't want to be the center of the next firestorm – here are a few suggestions.
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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/post/10889989 Big news in DC: a new bipartisan, bicameral proposal for a "compromise" federal privacy bill, the American Privacy Rights Act (APRA). At this point, take it all with a grain of salt; in 2022, the initial draft of the bill was promising, but it got weakened substantially by the subcommittee and then weakened further by the committee. I haven't read the discussion draft yet so don't have any strong opinions on it.
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Big news in DC: a new bipartisan, bicameral proposal for a "compromise" federal privacy bill, the American Privacy Rights Act (APRA). At this point, take it all with a grain of salt; in 2022, the initial draft of the bill was promising, but it got weakened substantially by the subcommittee and then weakened further by the committee. I haven't read the discussion draft yet so don't have any strong opinions on it.
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[Should the Fediverse welcome its new surveillance-capitalism overlords?](https://privacy.thenexus.today/should-the-fediverse-welcome-surveillance-capitalism) Opinions differ! If you're one of the fediverse influencers who sees Threads arrival it as "historic" and "a glimpse of the future" ... well, you might want to skip this post. But if you're one of the many many people on the fediverse who doesn't want to deal with Threads, read on!
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[Should the Fediverse welcome its new surveillance-capitalism overlords?](https://privacy.thenexus.today/should-the-fediverse-welcome-surveillance-capitalism) Opinions differ! If you're one of the fediverse influencers who sees Threads arrival it as "historic" and "a glimpse of the future" ... well, you might want to skip this post. But if you're one of the many many people on the fediverse who doesn't want to deal with Threads, read on!
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