Open Source southernwolf • Now • 90%

Why is there no BSD 3-Clause + Patent license option?

Recently, I was looking into licensing an open-source project I'm creating. My preferred license is the BSD-3, but was given advice that I should seek a license that offers patent protection as well. I saw there is a BSD 2-Clause + Patent option, but not one for the BSD 3-Clause, not that I found through OSI or SPDX. This seems odd to me, because I'm pretty sure the BSD 3-Clause is more commonly used than the BSD 2-Clause. Because of this, I've had to dual license my project as `BSD 3-Clause AND BSD 2-Clause+Patent`, which is a bit unwieldy, but achieves the same desired results. This seems like an odd oversight though, I'd be curious if there's a reason the 2-Clause was chosen for the patent protection over the 3-Clause version? I could just add in the patent protection part to the 3-Clause version, but creating arbitrary licenses like that definitely makes me feel a bit... uncomfortable. **Edit:** Due to some confusion as to what I meant, I wanted to add some details. I'm definitely aware that licenses such as the Apache 2.0 exist, I just like the BSD licenses for their simpler language (and also don't have that odd state changes clause from Apache 2.0). I'm more so just curious why the choice was made for only the BSD 2-Clause license to gain the Patent Clause, but not the BSD 3-Clause version. That's what I'm not sure about, and why I'm curious about the logic behind this choice. I'm gonna paste in the content of both licenses below, since they are both short and easy to read and understand. ### BSD 2-Clause + Patent >Copyright (c) > >Redistribution and use in source and binary forms, with or without modification, are permitted provided that the following conditions are met: > >1. Redistributions of source code must retain the above copyright notice, this list of conditions and the following disclaimer. >2. Redistributions in binary form must reproduce the above copyright notice, this list of conditions and the following disclaimer in the documentation and/or other materials provided with the distribution. > >Subject to the terms and conditions of this license, each copyright holder and contributor hereby grants to those receiving rights under this license a perpetual, worldwide, non-exclusive, no-charge, royalty-free, irrevocable (except for failure to satisfy the conditions of this license) patent license to make, have made, use, offer to sell, sell, import, and otherwise transfer this software, where such license applies only to those patent claims, already acquired or hereafter acquired, licensable by such copyright holder or contributor that are necessarily infringed by: > > (a) their Contribution(s) (the licensed copyrights of copyright holders and non-copyrightable additions of contributors, in source or binary form) alone; or > > (b) combination of their Contribution(s) with the work of authorship to which such Contribution(s) was added by such copyright holder or contributor, if, at the time the Contribution is added, such addition causes such combination to be necessarily infringed. 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IN NO EVENT SHALL THE COPYRIGHT HOLDER OR CONTRIBUTORS BE LIABLE FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, EXEMPLARY, OR CONSEQUENTIAL DAMAGES (INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED TO, PROCUREMENT OF SUBSTITUTE GOODS OR SERVICES; LOSS OF USE, DATA, OR PROFITS; OR BUSINESS INTERRUPTION) HOWEVER CAUSED AND ON ANY THEORY OF LIABILITY, WHETHER IN CONTRACT, STRICT LIABILITY, OR TORT (INCLUDING NEGLIGENCE OR OTHERWISE) ARISING IN ANY WAY OUT OF THE USE OF THIS SOFTWARE, EVEN IF ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGE.

(This review is a cross-post of one I posted on the furry.engineer mastodon instance. I wanted to cross-post it here so folks here on the Lemmy side of things could see it as well.) “The Wheel of Time turns, and Ages come and pass...” Wait, that’s not right. “Lyra and her daemon moved through the darkening hall…” Hmm, not quite. “In a hole in the ground there lived a hobbit.” Wait, no that’s not right either… Ah, here we go! “The grey fox fled through the forest, her paws as quiet as an owl’s shadow...” and thus begins Joaquin Baldwin’s (@joabaldwin@mastodon.social) epic fantasy tale *Wolf of Withervale*, the first book in his Noss Saga series. In the first book of this already epic series, we find Lago Vaari and his friends, new and old, embark on the start a hero’s journey across the lands of Noss. Learning the secrets of an ancient and powerful mask, they come to discover that far more is at play in their world than any of them had expected. There is no doubt that a reader coming to it will find the story deeply engrossing, and absolutely looking forward to future books within the wider series. ::: spoiler Spoilers The themes that Joaquin shows are rich in quality and variety, but all contain a very surprising amount of depth and realism as well. Starting off with the more obvious ones, the LGBT themes found in the book are numerous and varied. From showing Lago growing up and discovering his same-sex attraction, to showing how sexuality is handled by the varieties of people across the lands of Noss. In particular, with the character named Banook, we find a very accurate representation of bear culture and attitudes, as it relates to our own world. The irony of this is not lost, given he is an actual bear spirit himself! Further more, with regards to Banook, a depiction of naturism is found that does not always get shown this way in most literature. I am not sure if this was intended or not, but it is quite accurate and a welcome addition to an already rich and warm character. Having Lago explore his sexuality with Banook further adds to the wonderful depth of them both, and the themes presented with them. Digging deeper, there are themes that run through Wolf of Withervale that will sit very close to the hearts of those that have explored Animism, Shamanism, or Therianism. I am unsure if this was wholly intended by Joaquin, but it means this book will likely hit deeper for many that might be initially expected. It is done so in a more theatrical way, but the themes explored are very real as they relate to our own world. Furries, of course, will find the themes of the book, and the entire series, to be very much so to their liking as well. There are also themes that transcend topics that might not be initially expected, such as cosmology and astronomy (with a friendly topping of in-world astrology too), explorations of spirituality and religion (not just relating to the themes of animism either), archaeology, geology, philosophy, culture, language, and more. This is just a preview of what the book explores, and I expect this list to grow more as the series progresses. ::: \- What [Joaquin](https://mastodon.social/@joabaldwin) has crafted with the first book of the Noss Saga is absolutely spectacular, nay I think the word beautiful is truly the one way to describe the book in a single term. The world building and lore are spectacular, the themes are as varied as they are deep, rich in meaning and storytelling. The characters, both protagonists and antagonists, are deeply crafted with their own understandings and modus operandi, each adding their own unique thread to the story. [Wolf of Withervale](https://www.joaquinbaldwin.com/books) is a marvelous foundation for the Noss Saga series, and I can truly say that I cannot wait to see what is in store in the books to come!

codeberg.org

By far one of the best Reddit apps available for Android has been adapted to now work with Lemmy! It's still in Beta, but it's absolutely worth checking out if you haven't yet. It's Free and Open-Source too! Development also seems to be coming along quickly as well, already talk of getting it listed to F-Droid. Infinity for Lemmy community: https://pawb.social/c/infinityforlemmy@lemdro.id

cross-posted from: https://sh.itjust.works/post/1473025 > https://very.bignutty.xyz/notes/9hf13it1ced3b2za This seems like it may be the root cause of the recent server issues, I had to guess. Probably a lot of federation issues if the .ml domains went down all at once. Probably why it's not that smart to use a domain owned by a (nominally) hostile foreign government, just saying...

github.com

Wow, ok! For anyone looking for a better Lemmy app, for both desktop and mobile, Liftoff seems to be a fantastic choice! Definitely already better than Jerboa is, despite some in-development quirks to be worked around temporarily. If your "subscribed" feed is broken, set it to the subscribed feed for your instance, instead of "everything" and it should work as expected. Check it out, it's quite good looking!

If this is true, then some things start to make a lot of sense. By making the user calls so incredibly expensive for the API, Reddit makes it so it would be come prohibitively expensive for basically anyone else to be able to access. Google could likely still afford it (but they would certainly pay a lot to do so), but an upstart that would be more likely to wreck OpenAI, like MidJourney did with DALL-E, becomes far less likely to be able to afford the cost. It basically gives OpenAI padding between itself and upstart competitors where it matters most, training data. Further still, these changes might also explain some of the changes to the API, like the blocking of NSFW material. Doing that makes it easier for OpenAI to train on it, without needing to worry as much about filtering. It also explains the urgency of it too, as OpenAI is desperately seeking to keep upstarts, especially open-source ones, from being able to compete with them. It's why they are lobbying governments around the world to allow only them to be kings of AI. Rapidly closing off any new Reddit data, or access to old data for new upstarts, would explain why there was such short notice. Now, does this completely stop the ability to train on Reddit data? No. Web scraping is certainly always an option, but that's a lot more computationally expensive on the front and back-end, the data will be very dirty (more computational work), and Reddit can combat this with de-indexing techniques. For the data sizes that OpenAI, or other seeking to make a GPT-like LLM, use for training their AI, web scraping likely isn't feasible for the whole of Reddit. It should be mentioned too that this doesn't have to be the *only* reason for Reddit to make these changes. It still shuts down 3rd party apps and forces (those that remain) to use their ad-ridden stock app, it gives them greater control over how people interact with the site, and now it seems it gives the Reddit admins reason to directly intervene in subreddits to control how they operate after the protests. This combined with making OpenAI/Sam Altman happy, things start to add up. It kills multiple birds with one stone, if you will.

Linux Furs southernwolf • Now • 100%

Welcome to Linux Furs!

With all the refugees from Reddit seeking better places on the internet, I figured I would go ahead and create a community here for Furries who use, or are interested in, Linux to come, hang out, and ask questions. Whether you are a newbie just starting out, or a seasoned pro who just finished compiling Gentoo, all Linux Furs are welcome here! :) (I'll come up with some concrete-ish rules later. Just follow the instance rules for now and you'll be fine)