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When [@bouncing@partizle.com](https://partizle.com/u/bouncing), [@The_iceman_cometh@partizle.com](https://partizle.com/u/The_iceman_cometh) and I started this instance, we figured we'd get a dozen or so signups from people we knew. We left registration open, figuring no one would care because we did exactly nothing to promote this. It's by any measure still a small instance (~100 users) but even so, moderation of other instances is now a thing: we've blocked some troublesome instances, in particular ones that we suspect traffic in borderline illegal content. We by no means, however, have any good grasp on what's federating to us from the open web. Sooner or later, bots and spammers and trolls will find our humble little instance. Lemmy's only real remedies for that is an application process and/or verified email. Both to our mind seem useless, because bots can convincingly automate either or both. Cloudflare can keep out the more naive bots, though ratcheting up the security in it causes inconvenience for users, especially ones who protect their privacy (think of captchas you get when using a VPN). For its part, Lemmy is fun software, but not especially feature-rich. There's really no admin interface to speak of. If you get 100 bot signups, you have to ban them, one at a time. That hasn't happened yet to us, but it has happened to other instances, and it's rough. We've considered even just slapping a Django admin UI on its Postgres database, but we'd need to learn the table structure and also make sure that just updating tables in Postgres is enough (ie, does Lemmy's backend have state in RAM, etc). It's not something we're ready to take on right now. Anyway, about the possible future of bots and spammers: So what do you guys think? Leave registrations wide open? Require approval? Keep it the way it is, but lean more on Cloudflare for protection?

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An anti-porn app put him in jail and his family under surveillance
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    Part of the premise of the criminal justice system is supposed to be that the system is designed to occasionally fail to punish the guilty if it protects the innocent. That's often expressed as, "it's better to let 10 guilty men go free than 1 innocent man go to prison."

    You might just have to accept that you can't always be completely sure that someone's internet usage is sanitized. Could they reoffend awaiting trial? Possibly. Same as letting an alleged mugger walk the streets until trial or an alleged rapist be around women. Innocent until proven guilty means that, as it stands right now until a verdict otherwise is returned, an innocent man and his family are having their right to use a very basic feature of modern existence, the internet, infringed upon.

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    Oh totally. And they’re not even alleged to have done anything wrong.

    The prosecutor will say “well they could have lived in a Four Seasons instead of with their father.” Prosecutors are seldom reasonable people.

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    Computers are remarkably efficient but at the dawn of the Gutenberg press, you could have made similar observations. For the first time with paper, it was possible to commit crimes in the privacy of your own home merely by writing things down and sending them to a publisher.

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    Absolutely.

    In 1950, if you were told as a pretrial release condition, you weren't allowed to use paper because your alleged crime involved a book, no one would have thought that reasonable. Today, devices are the equivalent of paper.

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  • Lately I've liked [Spotify's Adrenaline Workout](https://open.spotify.com/playlist/37i9dQZF1DXe6bgV3TmZOL). Something about Rob Zombie makes me want to push myself. Maybe I'm running from zombies??

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    Switching from the YMCA EGYM system to manual tracking?
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    I'd probably try to just take an inventory of the equipment in the new gym, then design a workout from scratch that emphasizes alternating days between muscle groups. You won't always find a 1:1 machine equivalent from most gyms to the next.

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  • The Long Earth... Trying to decide on my next book. Lately the world itself has been dystopian enough, so I'm leaning toward a less dystopian sci fi book. Anyone got a recommendation?

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    Do you trust FiveThirtyEight without Nate Silver?
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    That's a problem that could emerge with any system used to predict the outcome of any election.

    If you make a prediction, you're arguably telling people not to vote.

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  • Do you trust FiveThirtyEight without Nate Silver?
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    What is he, a religious leader now?

    He was a good modeler and handicapper. His model happened to work well for the 2016 election. That's it. He's not a fucking oracle.

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    he chose to agree to be monitored and they chose to continue living with him” was uttered

    That got me too.

    "The alternative is that they could have rented a separate house while the breadwinner of the family was in jail. They agreed to it!"

    Utterly absurd. I also think, especially for the 14 year old, that level of surveillance is itself a form of abuse.

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    Not to mention the fact that any reasonable person would say that its use constitutes a punishment in and of itself.

    We need a standard for pretrial release where if any measure could, if taken in isolation, be considered punitive, prosecutors are not allowed to ask for it.

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    Prosecutors and judges really need a reminder of the concept of innocent until proven guilty.

    The day her husband was released on bond, Hannah sat down with their kids and tried to explain how all of their devices were going to be monitored: The probation department would see anything they looked at on their phones and assume it was their father using the device. The constant surveillance had an immediate impact on the family, Hannah says.

    And:

    In near real time, probation officers are being fed screenshots of everything Hannah’s family views on their devices. From images of YouTube videos watched by her 14-year-old daughter to online underwear purchases made by her 80-year-old mother-in-law, the family’s entire digital life is scrutinized by county authorities. “I’m afraid to even communicate with our lawyer,” Hannah says. “If I mention anything about our case, I’m worried they are going to see it and use it against us.”

    Any reasonable person would describe that as not just a punishment, but a pretty severe one.

    And one that affects children. Having a teenager know that a person she never met, who she has no way to contact, is looking at her activity every minute isn't just punishment in fact. It's victimization.

    Thus, I think we can conclude from this that the Monroe County, Indiana prosecutors office is victimizing children. Full stop. Time to make some arrests.

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  • How to Subscribe to Kbin Magazines from Lemmy?
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    I believe they’re at least partially interoperable. Once someone subscribes to a community on another instance, it shows up in your home instances list.

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    Former U.S. President Donald Trump faces a new legal challenge - this time from the government he used to lead - with charges for illegally retaining classified documents and other crimes expected to be filed next week in federal court in Miami.

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    Reddit to lay off about 5% of workforce
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    Part of Cory Doctorow's point is that this pattern emerges with all kinds of companies, especially ones where investors are demanding an outrageous return on a hasty speculation.

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