I am looking at haveno-reto and it has the exact same problem I had with bisq. in order to buy monero on haveno, you have to already have some monero, so you can do a security deposit. so haveno helps to reduce the number of times you have to interact with a CEX or KYC yourself, but it doesn't completely eliminate it. you may still have to do it at least once, like buying some litecoin on a CEX and changing it to some monero. I'd rather start clean with no KYC and it's very important to me. what I am still trying to wrap my head around is, on localmonero and even localbitcoins it was possible for a person to buy coins without already having any. there were always some sellers who would let you send maybe a couple hundred bux even if you had no account history or anything, and there was never a deposit or collateral. they would still send you coins in return as long as they got the cash. someone told me that bisq and haveno can't have this because then people will just initiate orders they have no desire to fulfill, as a form of spam attack that locks the seller's coins for a time, and that this is insurmountable without making the security deposit mandatory. but if localbitcoins and localmonero ran fine for years without this being a breaking problem, why isn't it possible on bisq and haveno? and why can't there be some other way to prevent spam like forcing the user to submit shares to a mining pool to prove that they are earnest? proof of work was invented to prevent spam.
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when we try to build our own financial system this makes certain kinds of ordinary people really mad for a lot of dumb reasons. they haven't been told that they are allowed to think it's cool yet
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terra required too much manual intervention and also aimed to maintain a USD peg. RAI and pureDAI aren't supposed to be like that. so I wouldn't be so pessimistic. I think there is still a way to do it.
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when are you going to set up a website on tor or i2p so I can download the binaries from there
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can you write a cash in mail tutorial
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is it normal for it to never stop having the yellow indicator
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please consider making this available on tor/i2p in addition to clearnet github
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I've been on the microblogging part of the fediverse for a while. what I've seen is, at some point someone's going to have to rip the bandaid off and instances like lemmy.ml need to defederate from instances like monero.town. they can't coexist with anyone who doesn't think the way they do. at some point soon, they won't be able to talk to you and you won't be able to talk to them. it's meant to be.
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I always thought that these problems are unsolvable with link aggregators that have a voting system and traditional forums are just better in so many ways
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welcome to the fediverse enjoy your new redditors
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a huge chunk of any userbase will never care about opsec until bad things start happening all the time
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it's been done with bitcoin. I'm talking about renbtc. something for monero will come eventually.
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I have a peertube instance. I can't get anyone to really care outside of the fediverse. I think peertube has a big chance to come out on top if so many new people are trying out the fediverse for the first time. getting everything to integrate properly would be a godsend.
