When did I say that?
I absolutely support Ukrainians defending themselves, especially from being kidnapped by ТЦК. Those who do that are heroes!

Yeah I am quite sure that this is Russian propaganda and misinformation. Every reliable source not bribed by Putin will tell you that every Ukrainian is happy to die protecting the regime and our glorious master Zelensky that is leading us to the victory in the name of Bandera. Well, except a few millions of us in Poland... Dunno how did that happen...

Okay, even if there is some truth in this article - the west knows best what's good for Ukraine, so please continue sending Zelensky more money so that he can stay in power and continue massacring hundreds of thousands more of us. After all, everybody who refuses to die is a traitor or Russian bot.

Oh no, now Switzerland is a Russian bot as well... :(

I wonder sometimes, if people who support Zelensky's regime were subject to the same "busification" that Ukrainians are going through, how would their opinions change?

If you knew that at any day, either you, or your son, your brother, your husband, your father, your friend could be kidnapped from the streets and sent to die, would you still support such a regime?..

Anyway, I think this is the first time I see this word in foreign media, despite reading it almost every day from Ukrainian sources. And that's good news, maybe if more people learn about what actually happens in Ukraine they will stop supporting this shit..

There's probably some problem with your archive tool.. :(

The zip that you need is "apk-arm64-v8a.zip", it has a "debug" folder inside it which contains the APK.

Russians being used as canon fodder.

Only Russians?

You jest, but go to .world or c/Ukraine and you'll see this type of stuff said without a hint of irony, dead serious

I know :(

I used to comment there, because I think it's way more productive to argue with people that disagree with you (because there is a chance to persuade them that concentration camps, kidnapping people, nazism, language police, etc. is not okay) instead of having a circlejerk on .ml, but it's kinda pointless when their mods delete every comment that goes against their narrative as misinformation...

The locals who refused to leave did so either out of stubbornness or for fear of starting over in a new place.

"Stubbornness or fear of starting ovr in a new place"? Oh really? Are you sure that Zelensky turning Pokrovsk and the rest of the country into a concentration camp is not somehow related to this?

A small group known as zhduny, or “the waiting ones”, supports the Russian war effort, believing life will improve under their rule.

How can they be so stupid?! Everyone knows that Ukraine means freedom and democracy, while people on territories liberated by Russia are mass imprisioned, forbidden from leaving the country, put into concentration camps, kidnapped from the streets and homes, language police is introduced, etc.

Wait what? It's the other way around? Oh no...

Western propaganda is on another fucking level..

LW user and labeling everything they dislike as disinformation.
Name more iconic duo.

Yeah, right. Zelensky won’t be able to “terrorize” Ukrainians by resisting an imperialist invasion

Oh yeah, because it's Zelensky who is resisting this "imperialist invasion", right? It's him, his family, his friends who are dying in the meatgrinder.
Oh wait, no it is not, he is flying around the world giving speeches about freedom, democracy and all that stuff, all while Ukrainians are imprisoned in the country and kidnapped from the streets and sent to die.

and Putin will turn the entire country into a concentration camp

Tell me more about those concentration camps. Tell me about concentration camps in Crimea? Tell me about the ones in Melitopol? Tell me, how Ukrainians who are on liberated territories are forced to stay there, how they are not free to leave at any moment (in contrast to those who are on Ukraine controlled territories)? I would love to know more about it.

It just shows me auto-generated Russian subtitles

Turn on auto-translate.

Seems like they still want to fight.

People are literally trying to escape the country by rivers/mountains, with some dying there, they don't want to fight.
People are afraid from leaving their homes, because they might be sent to the meatgrinder, they don't want to fight.

It doesn't show English as available subtitles for me.

At least on the PC version you should be able to turn on auto-generated ones.

Would also be helpful to know who these guys are and whatnot.

Svitan, ex Colonel of AFU. He is extremely pro-Ukrainian in general, but even he admits that current government is anti-Ukrainian, and turned Pokrovsk into a concentration camp.

Ukrainians in general.

Ukrainians (at least those whom Zelensky's regime considers good cannon fodder) are imprisoned in Ukraine, and are kidnapped from the streets by ТЦК ("recruitment officers"). They don't want to fight.

I don't know what that is

Well, you can listen (or rather read English subtitles) here about what it is: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7AXSB_WnYV0

I was just saying that that's why they're still fighting the invader. Can't

Who are they? The people that are mass imprisoned, either trying to escape the country or afraid leaving their homes because they are afraid of being kidnapped by ТЦК?? They are not fucking fighting, they are being forced to to the front lines by Zelensky's regime.

Ukrainians don't want to be subjugated by Russia though.

Don't want to have Zelensky's concentration camps either.

All I want to know is whether you're getting paid for this or it's just a hobby for you.

You see, for you this war is funny tiktok videos of evil ruzkies being droned. For me, this war is regularly talking with my friends and family who are still stuck in the west sponsored prison Ukraine with prison warden Zelensky. And constantly hearing that either somebody they know was killed, or kidnapped by ТЦК. It's not my hobby, I fucking hate politics. But if I persuade at least one person to stop supporting this shit then it's worth it.

Oh, also what it'll take for you to go away and never come back.

The war ending.

Guys, I'm absolutely serious, I'm not joking!

I'd very much like to know if something that I wrote is false! I'd hate being the one who spreads misinformation!

Please, I'm asking you, I'm fucking begging you - just tell me what is it? I'm not only going to delete any misinformation that I might have accidentally posted in this thread, I'm also going to apologize for posting it!

If you know that something I said is misinformation, and you don't disprove it - you are not doing anyone a favour, as now not only people (me included) might believe this misinformation, they might also think that when you accuse someone of misinformation you simply mean that you dislike what they say....

That's an incredibly stupid argument.

What else are you going to justify with "but it's the law!" argument?

People getting death sentences for rejecting Islam in Saudi Arabia?

People being thrown in jails for being gay in Uganda?

And don't get me started on what was "the law" in Germany less than a century ago..

Yeah, the only bad thing about Zelensky's concentration camps is that it's not written in the law, otherwise it would be all good and fine...

You are human trash for sticking up for the aggressors here, you absolute piece of shit.

Said guy who supports Ukrainian concentration camps.. 🤷

Sure, I will "get my misinformation the F out of here" as soon as you tell me what exactly is misinformation in my comment? :)

Why should the president of an invaded country have to negotiate with the invaders?

To save lives? And land (the sooner the negotiations start the more land there will be left for Ukraine. If the peace deal was signed at the very beginning, none of the land captured after 2022 would be lost)? Obviously Zelensky doesn't care about that, as long as he's pocketing those sweet sweet billions from USA..

They can leave and then it's all over.

But they aren't leaving, are they?

Putins been throwing prisoners on the front line.

So funny that you mentioned it :) There was so much coverage about Putin doing this, and very little when Zelensky started doing it.

He is notorious for locking up any vocal dissenter.....

And so is Zelensky. He disbanded every party he didn't like, as a matter of fact he is way more authoritarian dictator than Putin - even if you consider Russia's elections rigged, Zelensky won't hold any elections at all.

sooooo how are you not including him in this equation?

Feel free to include him.

It's just mind blowing for me how much Zelensky terrorizes millions of people, and he is still considered a good guy. I guess it's easy to glorify Hitler when you are not the one in Auschwitz.