Do animals feel love and emotion?
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    I'm not trying to justify anything to you, or to anyone else.

    Ethics don't exist in the world outside of humans. That's simply a fact.

    And many different human ethical systems exist. If you believe that eating animals is always unethical, that is your ethic. If that means you believe I am unethical, then that viewpoint is valid within your system of ethics.

    It's not possible to sway somebody by contradicting their own ethics; the only way to change a person's ethics is to appeal to them by showing the commonalities between belief systems, then showing them the benefits of certain variations that you believe.

    Neither you nor I like animal suffering. The difference is, I've seen plenty of animals lead relaxed, happy lives, that end painlessly before the animal is turned into meat. I understand that the notion repulses you.

    I've also seen plenty of "free" animals who've led short, painful unhappy lives. I'm sure you and I can both agree that this is not good. And if the animal led a short, painful, unhappy life in captivity directly because it was destined to be food? That's an inherently bad thing.

    I'm not criticizing your viewpoint, and I'm not trying to justify my viewpoint to you. But my viewpoint exists, and many people hold it.

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  • Do animals feel love and emotion?
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    That statement is untrue, because many different sets of ethics disagree with you.

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  • Do animals feel love and emotion?
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    "I'm not vegan because I love animals. I'm vegan because I hate plants."

    -SMBC, I think

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  • Do animals feel love and emotion?
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    An omnivore is predisposed to eat anything. Absent synthetic food processing? Yes, an omnivore must eat both meat and plants.

    Humans are the only species (that we know of) who chooses whether or not to eat something based on a system of ethics. But at the same time, most of the world doesn't have the privilege to decide whether or not to eat only specific things. In parts of the world, if you don't eat meat, you don't eat. In other parts of the world, if you don't eat plants, you don't eat. It's simply nature.

    I don't criticize your reasons for not eating meat. And I don't criticize your perspectives and responses to me, because I understand your viewpoint. But if you think your arguments are novel to me, you're wrong. And if you think I eat meat only for flavor, you're also wrong.

    All that said, Americans do eat way too much meat. We need to reduce the amount of animal protein we take in - not because of ethics, but because it's unhealthy to overindulge. Similarly, we need to reduce the amount of sugar we take in.

    Reality is complicated. I don't deal in absolutes.

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  • Do animals feel love and emotion?
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    My cats eat a diet almost entirely of delicious, delicious meat.

    None of it is made of cats.

    Nor do I eat cat meat.

    There's nothing wrong with being omnivorous as long as you're ethical about it.

    There's also nothing wrong with veganism as long as you're ethical about it.

    I draw the line at cannibalism, though. Way too easy to spread human pathogens that way.

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  • Sigh..... free speech he said...
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    What he meant was, HE should be free to say whatever HE wants. The rest of us poors don't matter.

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  • What prevents Linux from being installed on mobile devices?
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    You are correct. His statement wasn't about technology, it was about expectations.

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  • Aquarius Patch 5.12
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    I used the terrain manipulator to build a roof over me so that I was safe in the storms.

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  • Odd issue with an eBay 3DS I'm fixing up
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    Oh wow. Isn't technology amazing!

    I'm glad you eventually figured it out.

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  • Would a surgical puncture to the skull relieve a pressure headache?
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    Short answer, probably not. Anatomy is complex, and the source of the pressure may or may not be at the single point where you most feel it. Even if it is a single point, you wouldn't be dealing with what caused the pressure, and the body would seal the wound as quickly as it can.

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  • Odd issue with an eBay 3DS I'm fixing up
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    You're welcome! I'm glad that helped.

    It's a pretty common issue, micro corrosion or dirt underneath the domes. But not everyone knows you can peel them up to clean underneath!

    I've fixed a few systems like that.

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  • Odd issue with an eBay 3DS I'm fixing up
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    Did you lift off the metal domes and clean the contacts underneath? Or did you just clean the tops of the domes?

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  • [Epic] The Callisto Protocol
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    Still overpriced for that game.

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  • Was Elvis Presley a groomer and pedo? if so why was he so loved and not persecuted and prosecuted?
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    ...I'm not sure how else you're trying to be seen, based on how you keep responding to me.

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  • Was Elvis Presley a groomer and pedo? if so why was he so loved and not persecuted and prosecuted?
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    I'm not talking about how it was seen. I'm talking about how it is. There's a difference.

    Cutting off hands was seen as socially acceptable at certain times in history, if someone was merely accused of theft. But it is horrific and terrible. How it was seen as irrelevant to it being terrible objectively terrible.

    Are you just trolling, or are you actually trying to defend some of that behavior?

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  • Was Elvis Presley a groomer and pedo? if so why was he so loved and not persecuted and prosecuted?
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    No, but it was harmful.

    I'm talking about the objective harm of encouraging underage girls to avoid study and live their lives in the service of older men. There is nothing good that can be said about such a thing. It's basically indentured servitude.

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  • A few years ago, LXLE was my distro of choice for older hardware. I haven't used it in a while, and now I'm trying to revive an HP Stream (AMD/4GB RAM/32GB SSD). Anything else I might want to try first, or is LXLE still considered good for lightweight/feature rich?

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    And that it's genetic, so that it's passed down to all his descendants; and that all people who marry into the family also have it happen to them

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