What’s wrong with you? You’re trying to drag me into a conversation I very much don’t care for

This is another side effect of heavy modding and forced politeness in that it encourages this kind of game playing where you pepper your previous comments with edits to try to appear to be the reasonable party for latecomers to the conversation and paint the other as an aggressor. This leads to a forum of effete weirdos, each trying to outdo the other in feigned affront and "Good day to you sir!" type comments, such as again you've demonstrated here.

Nobody dragged you anywhere. You stuck your oar in of your own volition.

Do you ever stop before typing something on the internet and ask yourself “Would I say this to someone IRL? And in response to this particular thing?”

Not really, but since you ask in this case it was because you were trying to start shit by making a removed comment, so I responded in kind. SInce you were making excuses for a Nazi apologist it seemed apt.

Edit: being passive aggressive is unhelpful. I’ll correct myself.

Same here.

If your intention was to offend me over forum drama neither of us was part of, good job.

We were both part of it. The moderation was over the top and not wanted here, it just makes people resort to making removed sneering remarks instead of plain speaking, as you've demonstrated here.

so support russia, no matter the cost? even at the detriment of the very class and people we are supposed to stand for? because you wont have an easy time explaining this to people affected by this conflict.

Fucking Marvel Brain on display. You don't sympathise with Nazis so you must support Russia. Goodies and Baddies, you're with us or against us. I'm not the guy you originally started shit with.

because you wont have an easy time explaining this to people affected by this conflict.

And will you have an easy time explaining your sympathy for an ethnic cleansing fascist army to the people who've been mass murdered for years now? See we can both play this moronic game. The difference is that I don't have to try to put words in your mouth.

it really doesnt matter how well you wrap an idea, as soon as people struggle to put food on the table or you make too many mothers and fathers cry, you are done and people will turn to anyone who promises to fix things.

Your entire analysis is "food on the table" idealistic drivel and smugly playing to the crowd for updoots.

i understand what you are saying - russia must succeed here if leftist movement should have a hope, and america must be weakened. but to brush off this war as something to be celebrated is kinda sick. its fucking tragic.

I didn't say anything like that. And I didn't say this war should be celebrated either you liar.

you say that you support the end of the western hegemon. i dont think you will find anyone here who will disagree. but the methods are many, and the idea that this goal should be obtained by… pitting workers against workers, is rather alien to me.

The workers are being pitted against workers by the capitalists, not me or any other socialist here. I'm sure plenty of German Nazis in WW2 had to put food on the table too, that doesn't mean you get to "both sides" it.

you call me an anarchist. on what basis?

You trade solely in idealism and have zero analysis in material reality, the shoe fits. "War bad" and "soldiers are workers" is not any argument to sympathise and support the army of a fascist neo-Nazi puppet state of global hegemony.

i will not comment on the nazi callouts you keep throwing around. but it does seem you are the kind of person that keeps the leftist movement weak by sticking your head high up the clouds rather than looking down and trying to lend a hand to a working man.

There are quite literally Nazis involved in this war and your enlightened centrism calls for ignoring that. This is unacceptable for any socialist.

this war should not be happening. and i will die on that hill.

Who here said this war should be happening? Imbecile.

Now that doesn't sound very respectful my Anarcho-Nazi friend.

I disagree, it doesn't at all sound like they just wanted to start shit, it sounds like they had a real grievance with an idealistic framing. I don't agree at all with him that "The war itself is an progressive force towards a socialist world" but I absolutely disagree too with the other centrist guy trying to pretend that these Nazi allies are somehow innocent poor people versus "the rich".

The problem with these "respectful" crap is that it can be loosely applied anywhere and selectively enforced. Was the first guy being respectful when he accused the other of supporting the rich? This happening in a thread where someone started with "this right here is what makes this community truly different from that redditor horde.". This kind of shit is exactly the type of fragile modding thing that reddit is rife with.

At the very most it should be a warning. This place is completely fucked if this kind of thing is allowed to continue.

Calling an admin a moron is not something that should be a bannable offence.

Just to mention someone that isn't a YouTuber and hasn't been mentioned already: Caitlin Johnstone

Beer brewing?

He probably doesn't believe much of anything he says and co-opts contentious talking points to generate views and clicks. Just another breadTube grifter. He's not wrong in this instance but that doesn't matter to him.

He's had this same allegation levelled against him in the past by Dr Bair during his taking apart of BE's Uighur genocide crap:

"BE seems to me to be the kind of leftist that the authorities most like. Naively assuming that all govts are bad, by hating everything, he becomes exactly the kind of naive rube that he continually ridicules others for being when they believe a govt might do something good."

So he's just picked up this talking point as a juicy bait for clicks.

In what way is it "not intelligent"?

The only Star Trek franchise I've ever despised. Can't get past the opening credits, the shit theme tune with a montage of America's pathetic space race efforts.

Let's not pretend that it's just a normal society run by a few bad apples here.

It was a video address.

And to harvest identities through requiring registered email addresses.

I kind of hate lemmys set up. I cant tell who is replying to what.

How is it any different to reddit? I much prefer to UI here.

The libs focus on what they're told to focus on. It's just that simple. In a few years (if we're not all dry and crispy) when the truth is out about Ukraine people will swear they never believed it at the same time that they're telling you the Chinese are planning to blow up the moon.

they still believe all the scary things about ML states

This describes pretty much all non-ML "leftists".

it’s constructed in such a way that it will fool most bourgeois to think the movie confirms their bias of seeing poor people as parasites

My lib friends didn't get this though. I wonder how many did.

Mine was a couple of weeks ago. Around 2 years old, no idea what karma it had. What shocked me was that they went after my only alt that I used exclusively for fantasy football too. I appealed and they got back today with a fuck off. I was banned for telling a yank to burn in hell as he mocked they millions killed by the US.

For anyone wondering what is going on all you need to do is visit the BBC or NYT or WAPO and believe the complete opposite of what they're trying to steer you towards.

Here they're doing the tried and trusted trading of idealist ideas of "freedom" for practicality.