@spankmonkey @PonyOfWar I caught a public bus to high school. To get an extra 20m of sleep I caught the one that didn't go into the school and stopped on the wrong side of the road 1m before school started. To not be late we'd all walk out across the 4 lane road without looking. Cars will just stop.

After someone was rear ended the stop was removed.

@avidamoeba My gravel bike is steel. Steel is a good material to make bikes from. That is bikes intended to be used and repaired.

@avidamoeba @mapto Those are back because they are really sensible bikes for riding the places and ways most people cycle.

@PhilthyHabits @JackbyDev What's my point? Australian stadiums are better than the worst examples from the US, but they aren't fantastic.

@PhilthyHabits @JackbyDev Melbourne's big stadiums do have substantial car parks, but they are also a short walk from at least 1 central train station with ~10 platforms.

@umbrella @ertai looks a lot safer to be hit by than a car.

@SuperCub @Elkenders To most the size of an SUV is the point.

@PowerCrazy I think even those examples are more on the less side, they aren't continuing to grow that way. But they are good places to live because of how close to those ideals they still are.

@dessalines @PowerCrazy No, it really is feasible to have PT close enough to everyone's house. Some will choose a bike to cut 15m walking into 5m riding, but it isn't required.

Part of that is that every neighbourhood needs all types of housing. Okay, not every one needs high rise apartments. But medium rise next to the station above the restaurants and retail, surrounded by town houses, surrounded by units, surrounded by 1/3rd acre house blocks

It really isn't crazy

Utopia needs many changes

@ertai @frightful_hobgoblin Registered as a car may mean adding airbags, passing crash safety tests, etc. It all depends on where you are.

If you need to pass all those car tests you can't be a velomobile any more, you have to be a car. Someone was making a modern electric Moke, which sounds like a fantastic vehicle, except it wasn't legal in many places because it couldn't pass modern safety regulations.

(Heck postie bikes aren't legal in Australia any more because they wont add dual ABS)

@Glifted @ertai All weather is a pretty big upside.

@PowerCrazy Yeah.

And why aren't they putting in more useful cameras. My new car has at least 6 exteria cameras, but why isn't their a pair of cameras at the rear pointing sideways? Getting that view when reversing out of a perpendicular parking space would be *really* valuable.

@PowerCrazy @return2ozma I like where you are heading. Probably better to define being able to see a set of targets around the vehicle. Easier to define, harder to game.

I wouldn't ban cameras, but I would require the visibility be obtained without them. Cameras can give vision that is useful and implausible without them.

@Showroom7561 @jewbacca117 It's a tangent, but the number of Hiluxs that can be parked around a mining haul truck and be invisible to the truck driver is another visibility video that is enlightening to watch.

@rekabis I wasn't talking about pedal confusion, just the attentiveness needed for safety.

Size of vehicle makes the attention required to operate safely around other people higher. Both from risk due to vehicle bulk and mass, and the difficulty in being aware of your surroundings that a larger and higher vehicle has.

@rekabis @fpslem Honestly, I don't think any human is attentive enough to drive a SUV in a town.

@Baku What are the chances I'm still working on Collins street when the Degraves exit is reopened?

@mondoman712 @felykiosa it depends a little onthe road in question, there are roads with a sinple lane wide enough that a single file of cyclists are passable without crossing into oncoming traffic, but two abreast isn't.

But we all know this isn't what happened here. Driver just wanted to let his priveledge show.

@howrar @tpid98 I would hope a pedal powered e-trike would be using direct chain drive from pedals to wheels, the efficiency of that is very hard to beat.

@utopiah Just need requirements for airbags, etc to be dropped :(