I found out in another thread that it is NOT intended behavior here https://kbin.social/m/youshouldknow@lemmy.world/t/56323/YSK-that-you-can-edit-titles-on-Lemmy-unlike-Reddit#entry-comment-241691

Which means that hopefully, there should be a fix underway... I hope🥲.

I've had better results searching through the instances themselves because Google doesn't always index the keywords on time. On caveat of this method is that if the instance doesn't have the syncing out the instance where the info is from being propagated, then this trick would not work

While I'm not entirely sure about why things are set up the way they are, I guess that it was done on purpose seeing your response. Now, if explaining the why's and how's of this design is too much of a sensitive topic, I'm okay with dropping my questions and just going along with the ride 👍.

If it's possible as a compromise, how about consider displaying both "the origin of the magazine" (instance) and the "name of the magazine", rather than the existing format where kbin.social appears after the title, followed by just the "name of the magazine" (omitting the original instance from which it hails).

For example, the current layout is:

TITLE

(kbin.social)

PREVIEW OF BODY TEXT

USER, 33 minutes ago to NAME_OF_MAGAZINE_WITHOUT_ORIGINAL_INSTANCE (like meta)

My suggestion is to include an option for displaying it like this (I do understand that it might be a clutter to some, but it would be a nice feature for others facing the same qualms as I do):

TITLE

(kbin.social)

PREVIEW OF BODY TEXT

USER, 33 minutes ago to NAME_OF_MAGAZINE_WITH_ORIGINAL_INSTANCE (like META@LEMMY.ML)

To provide some context, I came across a post on either main or meta on the front page. It had kbin.social listed below the title along with the "name of the magazine," but the original instance name was missing. I was about to express my confusion since it didn't align with my experience on kbin.social, but upon double-checking the URL, I realized the post was not related to kbin.social at all. This "issue" generated by the behavior seems to mainly affect mags like main and meta posts, but considering these posts do often appear on the front page (since I've enabled other instances to discover more exciting content), I think that it's issue worth exploring.

Hopefully in the meantime, I've figured better ways to work around this issue (to verify the instance of the magazine) on mobile ( apart from checking the address bar), which are to

• click on the hamburger menu or
• to scroll to the page's end.

Uh wow this is the first time I've seen summoning the instance in reverse (what I'm aware of so far) and it feels like black magic on the other end... My head hurts now hahaha 😵‍💫

Just found out a while ago that it varies by instance, e.g. for kbin.social, it's not good to add the exclamation mark and just leave it as community@instance bare.

I used to not do it, but I've been influenced by Bing after talking to it for so long during the closed beta (I guess that this is an effect of subconsciously mirroring it so that I don't get kicked out before the 5 turn limit back in the days haha 😂)

Then again, in diverse online communities, there are various styles and voices that are eventually formed to be what's "acceptable" be the general consensus. As Lemmy is very new, it has yet to find its voice yet... I think 🤔.

I think that giving too many choices to users who are already confused by the concept of federation and instances will enhance their paralysis of making choice due to cognitive overload (See https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overchoice ).

I've found out kbin.social the easiest to get used to (end-user wise).

Damn I was looking forever how to get some communities working. Thanks!

This is definitely a much needed information during onboarding (not sure if it was included already or if I've missed it).

How long does it usually take for google to index websites? Because I tried the string lemmy site:lemmy.ml after:2023-06-15 and only one post turned up for me and it was Memes... the current state of affairs does not seem promising 😔 And if I tried with another instance with the same keywords lemmy site:kbin.social after:2023-06-15 nothing even turned up.

I wonder though, will search engines adapt to Lemmy and its fediverse system? Or will search engines die? Or will we see dedicated search engines to search through the fediverse?

Unfortunately, I've been getting some 404 not found of some communities/magazines of some instances that are not from the instance I'm using, e.g. I'm using kbin.social at the current posting account, but let's say that I tried to access something like https://sh.itjust.works/c/skincareaddiction there's no issues whatsoever (since it's the main instance where that community spawned off) but if I tried https://kbin.social/m/skincareaddiction@sh.itjust.works then I would get the aforementioned error code. I find it pretty inconvenient that caching/indexing of certain less popular (which I assume is what is happening) community working clunkily, it feels not as reliable than using a centralized service, but I guess that this is the price to pay for a decentralized system.

Same here! I feel like the problem with Reddit's established community is that most of them have found an "identity" and developed a "lingo" / "jargon" of their own. Like if you're not "innit" then it becomes harder to minge then there's this influx of downvotes making it very hard to wanting to take part without... lurking a shit ton. (like Stack Overflow mentality lol) Feels like threading thin ice sometimes. With a novel community like this one, where rules are yet to be set in stone, it feels... freer?

I mean, it still is very fun to lurk and digesting new content, but starting up posts on your own can also be a lot of fun. There's also a lot of bot/stalker behavior in Reddit which might minimize the incentive to be creative. With the smaller fediverse communities (especially closed/invite-only sign ups) it might be easier? I'm just speculating though...

Anyway, I'm happy that you are feeling more at ease being by posting more, keep it up!

Still no feature to expand/collapse comment :(...

Urgh it's so annoying that the instance I'm on cannot seem to load lemmy.ca but no problem with lemmy.ml... not sure what's going on... thanks for the cross-posting.

Two, but only because I can't log into the other fediverse instance that I've registered (sh.itjust.works).

My list

Funsies & Weird brainstorming

• /r/competitiveoverwatch aka /r/cow (I don't play the game but I sure enjoy the juice)
• /r/hobbydrama (very diverse type of juicy dramas, miam!)
• /r/overwatchTMZ (/r/cow but extended)
• /r/valorantcompetitive (same reasoning for the OW one)
• /r/livestreamfail (don't post there; but is fun to occasionally lurk and see funny stuffs and be up to date with the latest online juicers)
• /r/anarchychess
• /r/singularity
• /r/BestofRedditorUpdates
• and 20 more cute animal pictures/videos subreddits like /r/partyparrots, /r/happycowgifs, etc.

Stuffs I use for er..... productivity! yeah yeah productivity, that's right!

• /r/obsidianmd I enjoy seeing other people's workflow and new tools being developed
• /r/chatgpt (Recently the main sub went to shit with the influx of new users so /r/chatgptcoding or /r/chatgptpro might be better lol)

Subreddits that I often get led by Google search engine and it would be sad if they were to go down perpetually since I would have a very hard time without them...

• /r/homelab
• /r/automation
• /r/selfhosted
• /r/datahoarder
• /r/android
• /r/sysadmin
• /r/kitchenconfidential
• /r/appliancerepair/

I'm also very interested in how some different jobs work so I subbed out to these to check on them occasionally... and they sometimes would provide interesting workflows/insights that I can a-hem, take inspiration from...

• /r/ExperiencedDevs/
• /r/accounting
• /r/uxdesign

There's way more but I visit those a bit less, the problem is, I'm not sure if Lemmy can fill the void in my heart but if it does for those main ones (all above) then I think that I can permanently migrate from Reddit.

Yeah I just had to create an account at 3AM while being half asleep... I have given up on the dev/community (seeing the thread is not getting enough traction and it's full of shitposts at the moment on the frontpage) and is now using sh.itjust.works through kbin.social (which as I verified, has no such issue---and that's the beauty of the fediverse, just log in through another instance lol!). Maybe I will log into my sh.it.head account once they fix it, but at the current moment if they don't even acknowledge this bug (as I'm aware of atm) then how can they do so?

I feel like the concept of "decentralisation" is good for the consuming users and people who want to discuss an interesting topic/subject, but not really for OC/content craetors... They just want their work to be as exposed to as many people as possible (exposure -> more clients -> bigger brand/value -> profit???), and defederalisating goes against that principle.

Uhhhh I read your title as "futaverse"... a-hem.

So in order every single Fediverse instances, I'd have to include all of them? It'll be more fun if something that can exist to globally search every instances (and give us filter to opt out of some that the user do not enjoy) instead of making it a long long string like site:kbin.social + site:lemmy.world... Like kind of how greasyfork is doing with their search engine, I like it.

Wouldn't this just encourage SEO clickbaits more though? Also, a lot of these blogs can die over time, so it's also not the most reliable (like the owner can die or the domain providing service has expired or some shit). Also, how can this solve the problem of confabulated misconceptions (let's say that there are blogs that are feeding misinformation)? Without a moderating system, a comment section that can exist to engage and debunks those statements, and the upvote/downvote system... I think that it's hard to tell reliability of the information. Feel free to debunk my doubts though.